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Hello from Jocie (and Silvio) in Michigan!

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Hi!

I’ve been browsing around Biblical Families for a while now, but not formally introduced myself (and my hubby who does not yet have an account on here, but I am constantly reading threads and posts to). I emailed to inquire about the upcoming Biblical Families retreat in the Summer and Julie suggested posting an introduction on here. I am pretty shy initially and find it hard to do things such as these, but with the encouragement of my husband and our wanting to hopefully make it to the retreat seems like the time to do so is now.

My husband, Silvio, and I, Jocie (nickname), have been married for almost 16 years this coming June. We have one preschool aged son. I will be 37 in June and Silvio 41 in September. I was born and raised in a Christian home and my husband grew up in a home that believed in God, but was baptized and committed to his faith more after we met and before we married. Since then we’ve had our ups and downs but overall a blessed life, especially in 2022 when the Lord gave us the blessing of our first son after many years of prayer and hoping and dreaming. We pray and hope he will bless us with more. We became Michiganders in 2024, but are currently in Missouri for a bit because we travel for Silvio’s job.

There’s more I could say about ourselves / our lives, but I think I will leave that for another time and / or in person. Now I will share a bit about how we came to find out about polygyny / plural Biblical marriage and how I found Biblical Families. My husband and I had dabbled in and out of thinking about some sort of polygynous arrangement over the years, but from the perspective of it being sinful and taboo we would always quickly put it out of our minds.

Towards the end of last ear, my husband reconnected with someone as friends, and still just friends, but for some reason something clicked for him that made him question what we had always been taught.

So I started digging. Initially coming up with the usual church posts and articles on why polygamy / polygyny is not okay. At first, I was like this is a sin, look it’s confirmed in XYZ article, but I dug more. This led me to social media. I tried searching for different terms. I was curious if there were actual families out there living some Biblical form of polygamy and not what we had always encountered before (polygamy/polyamory/throuples and all tended to be associated with the LGBTQ etc. world). This is another reason we always thought it had to be wrong. Now we realize it’s all been to deceive us from the truth.

Anyway, I think the first one on the subject I found was Rob Kowalski, and from there McKenzie, tkentmedia, Tidwell, etc. I found Pete Rambo on YouTube, and the Berean Patriot website along with Biblical Families! And here I’ve been hanging around! We recently finished reading Exposing the Spirit of Ashtoreth and started on Thomas Kent’s book.

I was reluctant to think polygyny was actually Biblical, but I wanted the truth and I wanted to be on the same page as my husband, and the more I read and we read, the truth of the matter made itself known. It was scary and liberating all at once. One of my biggest fears was encountering isolation and not being in community. I told my husband, if only we could find other Christians living this lifestyle then in addition to being convicted through the Bible itself, it would be further confirmation that this is not a sin that’s going to send us to hell! What a wonderful thing to find this website!

Both Silvio and I are now sure that polygyny is Biblical and now we are studying and learning so that we can be prepared to fully explain/defend ourselves to family and friends, understanding that they might never agree or be okay with it. While a little nerve-racking, the idea of going to a place where we could meet others that are already living in plural Biblical marriages would very much cement the reality and normalcy of it, if the Lord leads my husband in that direction.

Anyway, I write a lot so I think I will close it up now and hope that this gives a little bit of an idea of who we are, where we find ourselves in this journey, and our eagerness to get to meet any of you who will be attending the Gatlinburg retreat in the Summer, if Lord willing we can make it!

For now, lovely to “meet” you all virtually. :)
 
Welcome! So, glad you made an introduction Jocie. It was wonderful to hear more details of your journey to Biblical truth and this site. I will put you on the summer retreat email list and I hope it will work out for you to attend. Blessings!
 
Shalom and welcome Jocie! Its always a pleasure to meet other women who are walking this path of biblical understanding with their husband. My family won't be able to make it to the summer retreat but feel free to DM message me anytime. This path can be isolating but I've found a lot of comfort in virtual/long distance contact with other women on this forum and who I've connected with online. Hoping at some point to make it to an in person retreat for fellowship as well.
 
Welcome! So, glad you made an introduction Jocie. It was wonderful to hear more details of your journey to Biblical truth and this site. I will put you on the summer retreat email list and I hope it will work out for you to attend. Blessings!
Thank you!
Hi Joice, and a special Hi to Silvio :)
Thanks for posting your intro and welcome to Biblical Families.
Much appreciated!
Shalom and welcome Jocie! Its always a pleasure to meet other women who are walking this path of biblical understanding with their husband. My family won't be able to make it to the summer retreat but feel free to DM message me anytime. This path can be isolating but I've found a lot of comfort in virtual/long distance contact with other women on this forum and who I've connected with online. Hoping at some point to make it to an in person retreat for fellowship as well.
Thank you for the warm welcome and letting me know I can DM you! I hope you can make it to an in person retreat at some point as well. I look forward to connecting more meanwhile! :)
 
Welcome!
It’s good to read the story of your journey in this understanding.
 
Hello and welcome!
That was a lovely introduction and I now feel like we have "met virtually."

we are studying and learning so that we can be prepared to fully explain/defend ourselves to family and friends, understanding that they might never agree or be okay with it.
Sadly, it really doesn’t matter how sound your position is. There is a quote that kinda sums it up. "Prejudices are rarely overcome by argument; not being founded in reason they cannot be destroyed by logic."
~ Tryon Edwards

Most are seriously threatened by this idea and they really don't want to consider that it might be moral, helpful, or "God's best" for ANYONE.
Lately while thinking on how illogical their arguments are and how seriously they twist scripture I am thinking it is actually "strong delusion" they are suffering from for condemning polygynists without a scripture to stand on.
(See 2nd Thes. 2:11)

the idea of going to a place where we could meet others that are already living in plural Biblical marriages would very much cement the reality and normalcy of it

Our second son married his sister's youngest sister in law last year. I knew she had some negativity toward polygyny and was a bit surprised she was interested in our son who knows it is biblical and chose to see his Dad having a second wife as a "filter" that would eliminate those unwilling to see it the same.
When she came with her family for our daughter's wedding (to her brother) she didn't know what to think or how she would feel about my sisterwife and her children. She found they were just family and were accepted and loved by all our children. It seemed so "normal"....that it was not anything that stood out or seemed strange.

It is too bad that people lost track of this as a natural reality, and so many have zero exposure to how normal it can be.

Our children were raised with the idea. Now others in our community get to "see" a less common kind of big family.
We lost a few family members, but many friends in our small community still appreciate and accept us. Some have said that being around our children tells them everything they need to know about us.

I hope you both are blessed as you come to a more complete understanding of marriage as God defines it.
 
At first, I was like this is a sin, look it’s confirmed in XYZ article, but I dug more.
We actually have a user on here whose handle is @xyz LOL!

Welcome! Get Silvio on here, and have him join the Men's Chat, and we do have a women's video chat group here as well, but that is the job of @julieb to invite you to that!
 
Hello and welcome!
That was a lovely introduction and I now feel like we have "met virtually."


Sadly, it really doesn’t matter how sound your position is. There is a quote that kinda sums it up. "Prejudices are rarely overcome by argument; not being founded in reason they cannot be destroyed by logic."
~ Tryon Edwards

Most are seriously threatened by this idea and they really don't want to consider that it might be moral, helpful, or "God's best" for ANYONE.
Lately while thinking on how illogical their arguments are and how seriously they twist scripture I am thinking it is actually "strong delusion" they are suffering from for condemning polygynists without a scripture to stand on.
(See 2nd Thes. 2:11)



Our second son married his sister's youngest sister in law last year. I knew she had some negativity toward polygyny and was a bit surprised she was interested in our son who knows it is biblical and chose to see his Dad having a second wife as a "filter" that would eliminate those unwilling to see it the same.
When she came with her family for our daughter's wedding (to her brother) she didn't know what to think or how she would feel about my sisterwife and her children. She found they were just family and were accepted and loved by all our children. It seemed so "normal"....that it was not anything that stood out or seemed strange.

It is too bad that people lost track of this as a natural reality, and so many have zero exposure to how normal it can be.

Our children were raised with the idea. Now others in our community get to "see" a less common kind of big family.
We lost a few family members, but many friends in our small community still appreciate and accept us. Some have said that being around our children tells them everything they need to know about us.

I hope you both are blessed as you come to a more complete understanding of marriage as God defines it.

Thank you for a reality check (in a good way), because you're so right. I have realized that this is something that a person comes to accept as, at the very least, being true or they genuinely believe it is wrong. Those "dabbling" in the middle know that it's the truth, in my opinion, but don't want to admit it as so. To admit polygyny being a Biblical marriage option forces a person, particularly women, to have to process many emotions and views they've held up until that point. Even being very much open to the idea of it, I still have a loooot of processing to do in many areas.

I also found that in trying to learn about polygyny it took me down another "rabbit hole" of learning more about submission to my husband, patriarchy, etc. All things I thought I knew, understood, accepted, practiced, but led me to the conclusion that I definitely have a lot of growth to do. It's a good thing, but also challenging!

The other thing that really got to us, is how much preachers, churches, etc. add/take away from the Word, whether knowingly or not. One of the things we started doing was finding sermons where preachers teach against plural Biblical marriage, and once you know, you know. To hear their arguments being more opinion, or an insertion of their biases, well if it wasn't wrong/scary would be a bit laughable. You can hear it so clearly once you've opened your eyes to this!

Thank you for sharing regarding your second son. Silvio and I are happy that our son will grow up knowing a more complete truth!

Again, thank you for your encouraging words and sharing! :)
 
To admit polygyny being a Biblical marriage option forces a person, particularly women, to have to process many emotions and views they've held up until that point.
I have found Alison Armstrong's books helpful in learning about how men are different from us. Sadly, I was mis judging my husband for many years, and even back in January found I was completely wrong about what he was thinking.

I ended up buying a few of her e-books. The keys to the kingdom and the queen's code. I highly recommend them. One woman told me she understood the content of christian writers better after going through some of Allison's work.
 
I have found Alison Armstrong's books helpful in learning about how men are different from us. Sadly, I was mis judging my husband for many years, and even back in January found I was completely wrong about what he was thinking.

I ended up buying a few of her e-books. The keys to the kingdom and the queen's code. I highly recommend them. One woman told me she understood the content of christian writers better after going through some of Allison's work.
Which books in particular have helped you out to understand you and your husbands differences?
 
Which books in particular have helped you out to understand you and your husbands differences?
She has alot of free content in interviews on YouTube that started me learning about everything that I had no idea I was missing.
The books I read are The Keys to the Kingdom ...and The Queen's Code. Those are in sequence and introduce the concepts and material through fictional characters learning the information. They read like novels but are packed with life changing content.

Alison started studying men decades ago and went from a feminist to advocating for men.
 
Hi!


My husband, Silvio, and I, Jocie (nickname), have been married for almost 16 years this coming June. We have one preschool aged son. I will be 37 in June and Silvio 41 in September. I was born and raised in a Christian home and my husband grew up in a home that believed in God, but was baptized and committed to his faith more after we met and before we married. Since then we’ve had our ups and downs but overall a blessed life, especially in 2022 when the Lord gave us the blessing of our first son after many years of prayer and hoping and dreaming. We pray and hope he will bless us with more. We became Michiganders in 2024, but are currently in Missouri for a bit because we travel for Silvio’s job.
Hello from another Michigander. 👋
 
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