January 20th 2025 - Donald Trump is BACK!

[MemeFan]

Don't believe in the reports that Iran is without leadership, or dysfunctional. Besides that - they have a close alliance with both Russia and China.

They don't have alliance with China and Russia. They both interest with getting close towards Iran if US is controlled by globalists.

If US is controlled by globalists they situation is:
EU + US + many globalists controlled states in Rest of World vs Russia + China. If would be in Russia and China interest to find any potential ally.

Horewer, if US isn't controlled by globalists, then alliance is EU vs China + Russia + US. Even Macron has publically admitted this is reality.

By the way, current Iranian regime was sheltered in EU before Islamic revolution, so it's highly likely they are actually EU proxies. So Trump is actually bombing EU proxy and trying to replace them with his proxies.

And don't forget, Russia to has large Muslim population. Currently there two Jihad ideology exporting state: Iran and Saudi Arabia. And maybe some smaller Gulf states.

Removing regime with fundamentalist Islamic ideology and replacing then with "moderates" would in long run help with internal Russian stability due to smaller fundamentalists influence.

 

[Otto]

So what regarding Israel's reasons? Useful to know, but maybe US has it's own reasons which matter for US.

Has anybody noticed Trumps interventions are different that before? For both Venezuela and Iran there is no ground invasion anx occupying territory.

They believe they need a world war 3 to usher in their messiah and his one world order.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said military actions against Iran are paving the way for the “return of the Messiah.

Netanyahu links Iran strikes to Messiah’s return - Daily Times

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said military actions against Iran are paving the way for the “return of the Messiah.” His remarks come amid rising global concern over religious framing of geopolitical conflicts. The statements have sparked debate among experts and international media.

dailytimes.com.pk

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This isn't the true Risen Son of David from the Scriptures. This is the risen angel from the bottomless pit masquerading as the true messiah with many signs and wonders. Which will fulfill the prophecy from Paul in 2nd Thessalonians.

What is eternal life according to John 17:3? It's for the swine/dogs/goyim to turn back from their lawlessness - become teachable like little children - sanctified by the truth (John 17:17) - and rise from being the dogs we're to becoming the children of the Most High. That is the meaning behind baptism. New wine for new wineskins. Why does Paul say there is a great falling away in 2nd Thessalonians? No love for the truth. In other words - they have no love of Messiah's flesh, but prefer the flesh of another master (which is adultery in God's eyes).

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Catholic - Protestant - Orthodox - they don't really know the Father in Heaven. Let's also be honest - the majority hate him and his ways. Truth has been done away with, and replaced with the traditions of men. But instead of these men starting their own religions - nope - they used the sacrifice of his only begotten Son to infiltrate; and teach their own righteousness:

Romans 10:3
For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness.

I've posted this on another thread. Lucifer - the messiah of the world - is also strictly monogamous. So whose flesh is the church really eating? Jesus Christ (Yahoshua Messiah), or Lucifer's?

This video just popped up on my feed. I don’t know this channel. It’s a preacher’s near death experience:

 

[steve]

They believe they need a world war 3 to usher in their messiah and his one world order.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said military actions against Iran are paving the way for the “return of the Messiah.

I’d have to question how that was said and what was meant by it. I have never heard that the Israelis believe anything like that.

It is definitely true of the Islamists, though. They believe that their messiah will return when things are most chaotic.
That’s why they are so hard to negotiate with, the hardliners don’t feel a need to survive. In fact, their only assurance of eternal life is through killing or dying in Jihad.

 

[Mojo]

Definitely Israel, but most likely Iran as well, are ruled by secularists who only give lip service to their religions. It’s true of the US. It’s awfully hard to be a true believer and govern. I think Iran is so hard to negotiate with because they want to maintain regional superiority in a neighborhood that includes nuclear Russia, China, and Pakistan and Israel. They also don’t have many friends in Sunni Arab states either.

 

[steve]

Definitely Israel, but most likely Iran as well, are ruled by secularists who only give lip service to their religions.

Sorry, but it’s the religious hardliners that have been ruling Iran.
The people have become more and more secular, they are the ones that Trump is attempting to free from the Mullahs.

 

[Mojo]

Sorry, but it’s the religious hardliners that have been ruling Iran.
The people have become more and more secular, they are the ones that Trump is attempting to free from the Mullahs.

Maybe secularists was the wrong term.
I mean to say that these rulers use their religion as their call to power. I don’t believe they are true believers. They aren’t really looking for 79 virgins or a Muslim messiah. It’s somewhat like the Catholic cardinal system. They are in it only for the power. They use the religion for its purposes.

If we believe the Intel reports, the current Ayatollah is a homo. He’s never been banished. The whole Catholic leadership is one big homo orgy. How is that possible if they hold to their actual faith teachings.

In other words, Im really beginning to think the turbans and calls to prayer are smoke, not fire.

 

[steve]

. I don’t believe they are true believers. They aren’t really looking for 79 virgins or a Muslim messiah

By what evidence do you come to this conclusion?

 

[Haya]

I saw an interesting video last week, a new, lower angle of the skating when DT got hit on the ear. The video made it look completely staged, has anyone else seen this?
A SS agent was casually escorting a few obviously non police photographers right below the podium to shoot pictures, the agent was bending way down, trying to stay out of view, that didn't work.
It all made the entire thing look very faked.

 

[Mojo]

By what evidence do you come to this conclusion?

No concrete evidence. That’s why I said “I believe”.

It’s more or less an amalgamation of looking at other rulers and governments. Whether it’s “patriotism”, “God save the king”, “the proletariat” or “sharia” I just think leaders use methods to galvanize the masses to help them achieve the interests of a small group of people.

It’s just my supposition based on human history

 

[Otto]

I’d have to question how that was said and what was meant by it. I have never heard that the Israelis believe anything like that.

It is definitely true of the Islamists, though. They believe that their messiah will return when things are most chaotic.
That’s why they are so hard to negotiate with, the hardliners don’t feel a need to survive. In fact, their only assurance of eternal life is through killing or dying in Jihad.

Yet - it was the state of Israel that started the war and has done everything they can to sabotage any peace deal.

Regardless of that - those at the very top of Islam - Judaism - and Christianity - serve the same god - whom is Lucifer. Not much different than the right and left. Both are marching us away from limited government towards totalitarianism. They’ve been doing this through “order out of chaos.” Franklin warned of this tactic:

Benjamin Franklin famously wrote, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety".

The religious groups are doing the same in the Middle East - even though those at the very top serve the same god. They are creating the worldwide chaos - and the solution will be the one world order and worship of the fallen angel Lucifer - who will promise peace and stability.

Albert Pike - a known Lucifer worshipper - wrote many years ago that world war 3 will be the final event that causes worldwide cataclysms - which will have people seeking peace and stability - and that’s when Lucifer will be finally revealed to the masses.

 

[steve]

No concrete evidence. That’s why I said “I believe”.

It’s more or less an amalgamation of looking at other rulers and governments. Whether it’s “patriotism”, “God save the king”, “the proletariat” or “sharia” I just think leaders use methods to galvanize the masses to help them achieve the interests of a small group of people.

It’s just my supposition based on human history

They are quite different. You treat it like just another religion. It isn’t, it’s a political movement masquerading as one.
Catholics don’t cheer when their children are strapped into suicide vests.

 

[steve]

Yet - it was the state of Israel that started the war and has done everything they can to sabotage any peace deal.

The only peace deal that can happen is if Iran gives up its nuclear ambitions, along with the ore that’s been concentrated.
How is Israel preventing them from signing off on that?

 

[Off-Grid Artist]

They believe they need a world war 3 to usher in their messiah and his one world order.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said military actions against Iran are paving the way for the “return of the Messiah.

Netanyahu links Iran strikes to Messiah’s return - Daily Times

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said military actions against Iran are paving the way for the “return of the Messiah.” His remarks come amid rising global concern over religious framing of geopolitical conflicts. The statements have sparked debate among experts and international media.

dailytimes.com.pk

I would like to take a moment to look at this statement.

They believe

Whom do you mean?

The Israelites?

The Benjamites in particular?

The Likud / far-right party?

Nonsectarian Jews?

their messiah

By which you do not mean Yeshua haMashiach / Jesus Christ it sounds.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said military actions against Iran are paving the way for the “return of the Messiah.

Wait, what did Netanyahu say?

the “return of the Messiah.

Oh.

return of

Wait.

return

That's not a Rabbinic Judaism understanding.

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I have a friend at our old church who was flown to the White House to meet Benjamin Netanyahu. He dined with him and Trump wearing full Sioux native regalia. This friend is a Messianic Jew / Torah observant Christian. He has a lot of cool stories.

He and Netanyahu got to talking about their faiths, both being believers in Jesus and His return soon.

 

[MemeFan]

The only peace deal that can happen is if Iran gives up its nuclear ambitions, along with the ore that’s been concentrated.
How is Israel preventing them from signing off on that?

Iran is by nature of it's size, most powerful country in Middle East. Breaking Iran into component parts will change regional ranking to Israel benefit.

USA will stay more powerful than Iran by nature unless Iran starts doing minimum classical liberalism and USA communism. Simply, size and geography too much USA. I do believe Texas now is more powerful than Iran.

So, USA has less of need to break Iran.

 

[Mojo]

You treat it like just another religion. It isn’t, it’s a political movement masquerading as one.

This is my point. It’s a political movement using religion.

 

[steve]

Iran is by nature of it's size, most powerful country in Middle East. Breaking Iran into component parts will change regional ranking to Israel benefit.

Who is talking about breaking them up?
This is the first I’ve heard of it.

That doesn’t address at all my statement, which you are referencing.

 

[steve]

This is my point. It’s a political movement using religion.

But it’s also a religious based political movement with eternal rewards.
World domination is the goal of the movement, but eternal rewards are the goal of the individual, dying for the cause is a resume enhancer for the afterlife.

 

[MemeFan]

Who is talking about breaking them up?
This is the first I’ve heard of it.

That doesn’t address at all my statement, which you are referencing.

Because USA after getting rid of Iran's nuclear program and establish compliance monitoring process can afford to "go home".

Since Israel has different goals, they may try to start round 3 war.

 

[steve]

Because USA after getting rid of Iran's nuclear program and establish compliance monitoring process can afford to "go home".

Since Israel has different goals, they may try to start round 3 war.

What are their goals?

 

[MemeFan]

What are their goals?

Breaking Iran and regime change. Not certain for rest. Probably it depends on faction.

I have no understanding of Israel's politics.