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January 20th 2025 - Donald Trump is BACK!

steve said:
One of the problems with lies that are being told is that people believe them.
It turns out that the man who attempted to assassinate the president Saturday night believed the stories that the drug boats that were blown up were innocent Venezuelan fishermen. In some ways it’s hard to fault him for being willing to lose his life in order to stop Trump from killing more innocent people.
All because haters intentionally lie.
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Trust is totally broken in America. How many times has Trump stated that Iran is defeated? That the strait is open? That he is the peace candidate? No more wars. Balancing the budget (DOGE/Tariffs). All lies - lies - lies - lies - lies.

The media is run by your enemy. Congress is run by your enemy. Corporations are run by your enemy.

This is done according to prophecy:

Gog and Magog (Final end times war):

The conclusion:

Ezekiel 39
21 “In this way, I will demonstrate my glory to the nations. Everyone will see the punishment I have inflicted on them (Gog and Magog - which revelation 20 confirms represents the whole world), and the power of my fist when I strike. 22 And from that time on the people of Israel will know that I am YHVH their God. 23 The nations will then know why Israel was sent away to exile—it was punishment for sin, for they were unfaithful to their God. Therefore, I turned away from them and let their enemies destroy them. 24 I turned my face away and punished them because of their defilement and their sins.

Did anyone catch that? Is that what we see today? Europe is run by enemies. The United States is run by traitors and enemies. The state of Israel is run by enemies.

 
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Otto said:
Trust is totally broken in America. How many times has Trump stated that Iran is defeated? That the strait is open? That he is the peace candidate? No more wars. Balancing the budget (DOGE/Tariffs). All lies - lies - lies - lies - lies.

The media is run by your enemy. Congress is run by your enemy. Corporations are run by your enemy.

This is done according to prophecy:

Gog and Magog (Final end times war):

The conclusion:

Ezekiel 39
21 “In this way, I will demonstrate my glory to the nations. Everyone will see the punishment I have inflicted on them (Gog and Magog - which revelation 20 confirms represents the whole world), and the power of my fist when I strike. 22 And from that time on the people of Israel will know that I am YHVH their God. 23 The nations will then know why Israel was sent away to exile—it was punishment for sin, for they were unfaithful to their God. Therefore, I turned away from them and let their enemies destroy them. 24 I turned my face away and punished them because of their defilement and their sins.

Did anyone catch that? Is that what we see today? Europe is run by enemies. The United States is run by traitors and enemies. The state of Israel is run by enemies.

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yes... many places are ran by evil people. In America, the government is ran by bureaucrats primarily. The elected people come in and are stymied right and left until they are gone from office, usually having achieved very little. Trump is actively fighting against the entrenched bureaucrats and they are fighting back. It is hard for me to call him the evil one when so much of what he is actually doing is good for our country. Does he speak things that are not yet true? Yes. I have heard that preached my whole life, speak by faith what you cannot yet see. And in many cases, what Trump says, does happen even though it might not have happened by the time he first stated it. Tariffs come to mind... Even that was pushed back against by the entrenched bureaucrats. They think they won because the supreme court reversed them but the tariffs were placed back on right away. Was it a set back? Sure.... But are tariffs a good thing for the country? Yes! And when the fullness of the taxation shift happens, the whole nation will feel the benefit of it. Some pain initially but, in the end, it will be better for the country.

Time will tell....
 
The TDS folks on here and throughout the left have lost perspective and only believe the negativity reports. If it shows even one sliver of negativity, it’s a fulfillment of the narrative.

But, it doesn’t mean that all of us on here that aren’t opposing every move and word of the President are necessarily walking around trying to debunk everything that gets reported.

I’m very, very concerned that the Trump family is raking in loads of cash from businesses related to papa Trump’s sphere of influence. The difference from Hunter Biden is that Trumps kids have all worked in the business and investment world since before he took office. However, it’s not a good look.

I’m concerned that Trump hired some questionable folks that seem to not have been ready for prime time, seemingly because they were loyalists.

In all of the Trump reporting, there’s bound to be true stuff. But, the track record of the frenetic Left press hasn’t been all that good. I choose to believe none of it is true until it’s patently evident that it is.
 
When brother Peter fought fought against prophecy, he was rebuked for it and called an adversary (ha'satan).

So one thing I appreciate about Trump is that he's playing his part to usher in the 'one world order' and bringing forth the messiah of Judaism (and majority in Christianity); whom is Lucifer - the counterfeit and imitator of the light. Believers can't fight against prophecy, because it’s like fighting against the will of the Most High. Is it not foretold that there will be a great falling away in the church, and believers will join ‘the man of lawlessness.'

Here's why I look forward to it - the mask will finally come out from the mother church and her daughters. The majority of the church today is headless. They claim that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, Lord, King, and Master - but they lie and deceive themselves - because when the living word of Messiah contradicts with Lucifer's light - they will almost always choose Lucifer.
 
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Otto said:
Here's why I look forward to it - the mask will finally start to come out from the mother church and her daughters. The majority of the church today is headless. They claim that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, Lord, King, and Master - but they lie and deceive themselves - because when the living word of Messiah contradicts with Lucifer's light - they will almost always choose Lucifer.
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You left out the part where they think that he is God, but overall I agree with your statement.
Otto said:
So one thing I appreciate about Trump is that he's playing his part to usher in the 'one world order' and bringing forth the messiah of Judaism (and majority in Christianity). Which is Lucifer - the counterfeit and imitator of the light. You can't fight against prophecy. It's foretold that there will be a great falling away, and believers will join this 'the man of lawlessness.'
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I don’t believe that you can know this with absolute assurance. If you are claiming to be a prophet and are in possession of knowledge directly from Yah, then take that stand and claim it. Put your life on the line as a true prophet.
Otherwise stand down. Just give a warning about what you believe without making declarative statements. You might be judging and slandering an imperfect brother.
Otto said:
When brother Peter fought fought against prophecy, he was rebuked for it and called an adversary (ha'satan).
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Obviously Peter wasn’t actually Satan.
Yeshuah rebuked him directly for repeating what Satan had given him. He didn’t make it a point denigrate him, although the rebuke was public.
He didn’t further denigrate him and tell everyone how badly he was going to fail at the crucifixion
So I don’t see him as your example.
 
steve said:
Obviously Peter wasn’t actually Satan.
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No, he was simply ignorant of the will of the Most High. He didn’t see the full picture of what Messiah was fulfilling through his sacrifice. So Peter was simply rebuked for getting in His Way, and I don’t think Peter protested after that. I think he got out the way real fast.

Acts 5:39
But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”

So standing or preventing the will of the Most High turns you into an adversary (fighting against God).

His will for the last days is written in Isaiah 65. The great falling away is in there as well (verse 8 through 25). Therefore - America - along with the rest of the Christian nations - will not experience a true revival. Some will be saved and given a new land to dwell in.

steve said:
I don’t believe that you can know this with absolute assurance. If you are claiming to be a prophet and are in possession of knowledge directly from Yah, then take that stand and claim it. Put your life on the line as a true prophet.
Otherwise stand down. Just give a warning about what you believe without making declarative statements. You might be judging and slandering an imperfect brother.
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For there to be a new world order the current system must be brought down to its knees. “Order out of chaos.” That also means that the dollar must collapse. Is Trump expediting the dollar’s demise? Of course - the only debate is if he’s doing it through ignorance or is it purposeful (the answer is simply trivial at this point). The petro dollar is being challenged. The printing machine is working overtime and further de-valuing the currency. The corporations have merged with the governments. For example, the data centers. Why are American people paying the electricity bills for these billion dollar corporations behind the data centers? The AI takeover and the mass exodus of jobs. The bigs will get bigger. Also, the gambling culture that has gotten worse under this administration (poly markets). Whole world is a casino - and Trump’s family is profiting from it (his son is on the board and invested in these gambling sites).

So Trump is escalating the collapse, and the final solution will be the ‘one world order.’

How did we get to this situation? It wasn’t overnight. It was the church gradually removing the Creator as the Head - and replacing him according to the pattern of the world. “Broad is the way and many enter it.” You think these churches would be racking in millions and billions of dollars if they were feeding people only the flesh of Messiah? It’s a headless church. Conformed to the pattern of the world. Sending your daughters to colleges without a covering? Un-wise. Virginity is no longer cherished. Responsibility is replaced with one night stands. Marriage structure invites chaos and divorce. Food is garbage. Culture is garbage. Language is foul. Clothing represents that of swine (Proverbs 11:22). We don’t deserve a leader to bring order and law, and the fruit shows we don’t have one. Everything Trump has touched has backfired - from ice - to Iran - to the tariffs.

Don’t tell me it’s “the democrats fault.” So God can save Trump from a bullet, but can’t save him from tariffs - Iran - and ice? Everything he has touched has turned to sour.
 
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Otto said:
No, he was simply ignorant of the will of the Most High. He didn’t see the full picture of what Messiah was fulfilling through his sacrifice. So Peter was simply rebuked for getting in His Way, and I don’t think Peter protested after that. I think he got out the way real fast.

Acts 5:39
But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”

So standing or preventing the will of the Most High turns you into an adversary (fighting against God).

His will for the last days is written in Isaiah 65. The great falling away is in there as well (verse 8 through 25). Therefore - America - along with the rest of the Christian nations - will not experience a true revival. Some will be saved and given a new land to dwell in.



For there to be a new world order the current system must be brought down to its knees. “Order out of chaos.” That also means that the dollar must collapse. Is Trump expediting the dollar’s demise? Of course - the only debate is if he’s doing it through ignorance or is it purposeful (the answer is simply trivial at this point). The petro dollar is being challenged. The printing machine is working overtime and further de-valuing the currency. The corporations have merged with the governments. For example, the data centers. Why are American people paying the electricity bills for these billion dollar corporations behind the data centers? The AI takeover and the mass exodus of jobs. The bigs will get bigger. Also, the gambling culture that has gotten worse under this administration (poly markets). Whole world is a casino - and Trump’s family is profiting from it (his son is on the board and invested in these gambling sites).

So Trump is escalating the collapse, and the final solution will be the ‘one world order.’

How did we get to this situation? It wasn’t overnight. It was the church gradually removing the Creator as the Head - and replacing him according to the pattern of the world. “Broad is the way and many enter it.” You think these churches would be racking in millions and billions of dollars if they were feeding people only the flesh of Messiah? It’s a headless church. Conformed to the pattern of the world. Sending your daughters to colleges without a covering? Un-wise. Virginity is no longer cherished. Responsibility is replaced with one night stands. Marriage structure invites chaos and divorce. Food is garbage. Culture is garbage. Language is foul. Clothing represents that of swine (Proverbs 11:22). We don’t deserve a leader to bring order and law, and the fruit shows we don’t have one. Everything Trump has touched has backfired - from ice - to Iran - to the tariffs.

Don’t tell me it’s “the democrats fault.” So God can save Trump from a bullet, but can’t save him from tariffs - Iran - and ice? Everything he has touched has turned to sour.
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I agree with you on some of this, but the rest of it you are viewing through the wrong filter, I believe.

You aren’t dealing with the possibility that you might be judging and condemning him wrongly.
I continue to implore you to dial it back lest you be judged with the judgment that you are laying on him.
 
Otto said:
the church gradually removing the Creator as the Head - and replacing him according to the pattern of the world. “Broad is the way and many enter it.” You think these churches would be racking in millions and billions of dollars if they were feeding people only the flesh of Messiah? It’s a headless church. Conformed to the pattern of the world. Sending your daughters to colleges without a covering? Un-wise. Virginity is no longer cherished. Responsibility is replaced with one night stands. Marriage structure invites chaos and divorce. Food is garbage. Culture is garbage. Language is foul. Clothing represents that of swine (Proverbs 11:22). We don’t deserve a leader to bring order and law
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I 100% agree with this statement!!!!
 
One of the problems I see with some is the ability and necessity to criticize our president’s personal behavior and even policy mishaps without delegitimization of his office or his divinely appointed administration.

Like it or not, he is God’s annointed. He only serves at the will of our Father. As such, we need to be careful in just how far we take our frustrations. Ultimately, we rebuke our Father for making unwise choices that his sovereignty allows him to make.
 
Let's all keep passages such as Proverbs 25:3 in mind; As the heavens for height and the earth for depth, So the heart of kings is unsearchable. Wise leaders conceal their designs, purposes, and keep their reasons of state secret. No one here in the forum knows the  heart of President Trump, or that of any of the other leaders involved. I find it interesting that the Iranian regime has fired double the number of misiles at the U.A.E compared to Israel. Do any here know why that is since the U.A.E. is also muslim?? The U.A.E. asked President Trump for help; they didn't ask other muslin countries. All the former Iranian leaders are dead, the command and control centers largely destroyed. Who is in charge there? Some here in the forum seem to suggest they know the hearts of the leaders involved in the conflict. Do you even know who is currently leading the Iranian people? Do you know why the U.A.E. muslim leadership wants the same outcomes as Israel and the USA from this conflict? I don't know, I really don't, so I hope someone here can tell me what's in the hearts of these world leaders. The problem is, according to the Word of God, you can't tell me, so take care what you post in the forum! Shalom
 
I find it interesting that the Iranian regime has fired double the number of misiles at the U.A.E compared to Israel. Do any here know why that is since the U.A.E. is also muslim
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UAE are USA are partners, and assist them in aggressions against Iran (using their land as bases to attack). Also, in return for massive oil profits they turned a blind eye to the genocide happening with their neighbors (Gaza/Lebanon).

Don't believe in the reports that Iran is without leadership, or dysfunctional. Besides that - they have a close alliance with both Russia and China.
 
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frederick said:
Let's all keep passages such as Proverbs 25:3 in mind; As the heavens for height and the earth for depth, So the heart of kings is unsearchable. Wise leaders conceal their designs, purposes, and keep their reasons of state secret. No one here in the forum knows the  heart of President Trump, or that of any of the other leaders involved.
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Trump is no king. There is no King but Messiah Yahoshua (Jesus). Trump can't even justify the reasons for this war. Regime change? Or Nuclear? I thought their nuclear ability was obliterated last year in the 12 day war? So before US/State of Israel attacked Iran - remember - the strait was open - there was no toll bridge - Iran had no nuclear capability - and gas was under $3.00 a gallon. The school children were not bombed - and how many more people worldwide will be affected by this war?

Regime change...... that's pure nonsense. The state of israel wanted this war for their own reasons. The talmud says they are allowed to lie to the goyim. He was most likely lied to by the Israelis that this would be a quick military success like in Cuba. They lied to him. Now he can't get out of it, and many people will suffer because of it.
 
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Otto said:
The state of israel wanted this war for their own reasons.
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On this I can agree. The USA wanted it for their own reasons. Israel had their reasons.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Iran is the enemy of Israel
Iran is the enemy of the US

Two friends got together to fight a common enemy.

We don’t have to agree with their reasons as long as they support our mission.
 
Otto said:
Regime change...... that's pure nonsense.
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The regime declared war on us and has been killing us for decades.
The majority of them have received their eternal rewards. How is that nonsense?
 
Regarding Iranian regime sanity, it says very much that Russia has actual military alliance with North Korea, while only some military tech sharing (with possible exercises) with Iran.

I would remind you that best military ally is someone very able to help you, very willing to help you and without interest to start new problematic wars for you.

And by the way, Iran should be able to offer much more than Korea. If anything, with population at least several times North Korea, Iran should be in much better position.
 
Otto said:
Trump is no king. There is no King but Messiah Yahoshua (Jesus). Trump can't even justify the reasons for this war. Regime change? Or Nuclear? I thought their nuclear ability was obliterated last year in the 12 day war? So before US/State of Israel attacked Iran - remember - the strait was open - there was no toll bridge - Iran had no nuclear capability - and gas was under $3.00 a gallon. The school children were not bombed - and how many more people worldwide will be affected by this war?
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I think Trump wanted 12 day war to stop and therefore made show of attack in order to take away Neocons and Israel talking points. He also expect for Iran to give nuclear weapon ambitions in negotiations.

Negotiations have failed, therefore beatings are only option.

Otto said:
Regime change...... that's pure nonsense. The state of israel wanted this war for their own reasons. The talmud says they are allowed to lie to the goyim. He was most likely lied to by the Israelis that this would be a quick military success like in Cuba. They lied to him. Now he can't get out of it, and many people will suffer because of it.
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I would support Croatian government replacing current Serbian government into something friendlier toward Croatia. You know, both nations are at peace, but I don't sense that enough Serbians have given up on designs on Croatian territory.

So what regarding Israel's reasons? Useful to know, but maybe US has it's own reasons which matter for US.

Has anybody noticed Trumps interventions are different that before? For both Venezuela and Iran there is no ground invasion anx occupying territory.
 
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