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Meat Mystery behind 1 Corinthians 7:36-37 (virgin, daughter, betrothed or what?)

It could have more than one meaning. I’ve always read it in the context of a Dad and his daughter(s). We talk about it infrequently as a family. They all understand:

1. Our children are to stay with us while they are adults until they are married (if daughters) or given our blessing to leave (if sons).

2. I reserve the right to withhold my blessing in marriage if I think it best that one or more daughters remain with us in the home for some reason.

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What will your blessing do to a marriage? Can marriage happen without your blessing?

My blessing for them to marry allows an orderly transfer of a daughter from being under the authority of a father to being under the authority of a husband.

As for whether or not “marriage can happen without your blessing,” probably. I guess it depends on how you define marriage: some folks here say it’s just solemnized sexual intercourse.

Surely marriage can occur without someone’s blessing just as well as murder can, but both would be sinful and ill advised. A daughter shouldn’t be off making those decisions on her own.

If she did, then as family is somewhat particular and separatistic, there would be a fair amount of shunning and/or non-fellowship between the offending party and our family if they proceeded to do something without my blessing.
 
It's sinful to marry without a fathers blessing?
Probably.

The early church and Protestant Reformers certainly seemed to think it was not binding if performed without the blessing of the paterfamilias in addition to being a violation of the fifth commandment.

Circumventing authority is seldom recognized as honoring that authority, whether the context is secular or spiritual.

Consider Numbers 30 for more info.
 
Sometimes the word "sin" simply means a really bad idea. Sometimes sin is a violation in the corporeal sense and brings it's own punishment. Ingesting cyanide is a violation (sin) against the body and it will result in death. Another instance is to eat stuff that is bad for you- eating a snickers bar several times a day will bring on a slow death (or make you WISH you died).
 
Probably.

The early church and Protestant Reformers certainly seemed to think it was not binding if performed without the blessing of the paterfamilias in addition to being a violation of the fifth commandment.

Circumventing authority is seldom recognized as honoring that authority, whether the context is secular or spiritual.

Consider Numbers 30 for more info.
Some more context here, courtesy of Logos.

"The exegetical arguments for requiring paternal blessing rest on several layers of biblical reasoning that reformers synthesized into a coherent case.

The foundational argument derives from the Fifth Commandment. Since honoring parents consists principally in obedience to them in all things “in the Lord,” and marriage represents a matter of such profound importance to one’s entire life that it exceeds the judgment of children, those who marry without parental consent cannot claim to honor their parents in “the most momentous case.” This transforms the commandment from a general principle into a specific prohibition.

Multiple Old Testament passages establish that parents—not children—possess the authority to arrange marriages. God gave parents explicit precepts concerning settling their children in marriage: “Thou shalt not take of their daughters unto thy sons” (Ex. 34:16); “thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son” (Dt. 7:3); and “Take wives for your sons, and give your daughters to husbands” (Jer. 29:6). These commands would be meaningless unless children remained subject to parental power, especially in contracting marriage.

The law of seduction provides the most forceful evidence. When a man seduced an unbetrothed maiden, he was required to endow her and take her as wife—“If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins” (Ex. 22:17). If the father’s consent remained necessary even for a defiled daughter whose dishonor marriage would cover, it must apply far more stringently to an untouched and pure daughter.

Finally, by parity of reasoning from Numbers 30:4, where the father can void the daughter’s vow to God, he must also possess authority over marriage—a promise made to men rather than to God."

So when I said 'probably', I'm trying to also factor in confounding variables as they come to mind (e.g. not being under your father's roof in the case of estrangement, the father not being a believer and wishing his believing daughter to not marry a believing husband, and so on). But generally speaking, yes, I think there's biblical merit that suggests it's dishonoring in the best case scenario or null and void in the worst case scenario where a father's blessing is not sought and obtained for his daughter's hand in marriage.
 
Sometimes the word "sin" simply means a really bad idea. Sometimes sin is a violation in the corporeal sense and brings it's own punishment. Ingesting cyanide is a violation (sin) against the body and it will result in death. Another instance is to eat stuff that is bad for you- eating a snickers bar several times a day will bring on a slow death (or make you WISH you died).
I guess I'm just extremely careful with what I condemn as sinful.
 
I guess I'm just extremely careful with what I condemn as sinful.

As you should be!

The fifth commandment definitely means something, albeit we may disagree on the scope and application.

As I elaborated on above, I think we have a great exegetical basis for thinking that a young woman under authority is not free to usurp or circumvent that authority, especially within the context of marriage, in most cases.

For what it's worth, we also see this responsibility and authority a father has over his children extend even to adult male children that live outside of the home, as in the case of Eli and his sons, who would've been over the age of thirty.
 
As you should be!

The fifth commandment definitely means something, albeit we may disagree on the scope and application.

As I elaborated on above, I think we have a great exegetical basis for thinking that a young woman under authority is not free to usurp or circumvent that authority, especially within the context of marriage, in most cases.

For what it's worth, we also see this responsibility and authority a father has over his children extend even to adult male children that live outside of the home, as in the case of Eli and his sons, who would've been over the age of thirty.
I'm not sure if honoring the authority necessarily means the authority was authorized.

*By the way, I'm not entirely disagreeing with you. I'm going to study more into what you said later when I have the time.
 
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The foundational argument derives from the Fifth Commandment. Since honoring parents consists principally in obedience to them in all things “in the Lord,”
You should thought this out more.

What is point of raising child?

If obedience is point, then grown-up child is your personal slave till end of your life. Point of slave is to obey.

I tbought we raise children to become independent, able to take care of themselves, bring positive contributor to society etc....
 
For what it's worth, we also see this responsibility and authority a father has over his children extend even to adult male children that live outside of the home, as in the case of Eli and his sons, who would've been over the age of thirty.
No
They were only under his authority in the office of the priesthood.
When a young man leaves his father’s house, he is head of his household under Yeshuah.
There is a chain of council that a young man should be under that hopefully would include his father, but not authority.
 
No
They were only under his authority in the office of the priesthood.
When a young man leaves his father’s house, he is head of his household under Yeshuah.
There is a chain of council that a young man should be under that hopefully would include his father, but not authority.
Can you be more precise? What councils?
 
No
They were only under his authority in the office of the priesthood.
When a young man leaves his father’s house, he is head of his household under Yeshuah.
There is a chain of council that a young man should be under that hopefully would include his father, but not authority.
By the way, we can reasonable conclude Lord is anti-commie. He likes private property, commies don't.

And union of councils is basic organization method of Soviet Union. Now, basic thinking tell me that Lord won't prefer using same organization methods as commies.

So, 99% something is wrong.

More here:

 
Can you be more precise? What councils?
11When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

As you said in a previous post, a boy is to become more mature.
As a young man, head of his household, he still doesn’t know everything. In a multitude of councilors is wisdom. His father hopefully would rate high on his councilor list. Not all fathers make good councilors. Some are good examples of what not to do.

A young man has to make choices about who he learns from, young men who only take council from their friends often take a lot longer to learn what they need to know.
There is no actual structure beyond the family, although elders should exist in the churches who have been proven.
 
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