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Older men and young women having families. What do you think?

Normal is too often used as a synonym for average....and these days average is off the charts below acceptable imho.
My preferred word is peculiar. Yeah. Ill take that one!
That is the crux of the issue of age-gap relationships. Most people are scared of stepping out of the cultural paradigm and not being normal, but that's exactly what we're called to do; to live in the world but not be of the world.
 
The lack of common sense around here is sometimes astounding.

Yes, I'm obviously asking about practical guidance.

Yes, a 70 year old marrying a 20 year old is highly unusual! It is extremely anomalous. It is rarely done.

I clearly said it isn't sinful for a much older man to marry a young woman. God's Law does not prohibit it.
ok, sounds like we agree
Natural law??

Where exactly is this "law of nature" that feeble old men should marry nubile young women to be found?

I can go to Ecclesiastes and show that there is a time and a season for everything under the sun. The season for reproducing with 20 year olds normally ends well before your 70th birthday.

There are rare exceptions, but it is foolish to assume that you are one of them.

God opened the womb of the 90 year old Sarah, but almost certainly will not open the wombs of most nursing home residents. 😁
we agree here as well
 
Just a reminder.
Normal is average, average is lukewarm.
Remember what Yah says about lukewarm?

16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
 
Just a reminder.
Normal is average, average is lukewarm.
Remember what Yah says about lukewarm?

16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
My dear husband likes his drinks hot or cold. I like my coffee to not be so hot it kills every enzyme in our good raw cream or milk!...or kills my taste buds!

I appreciate people with strong opinions though, because the wishy-washy seem to me to resemble spineless things....like slugs!
I regularly salt slugs....the ones that get in our house. I liked that guy that had Pass the Salt ministries too! Coach Dave!
 
A couple of the guys who I get together with for lunch each month have younger partners. One guy is 66 and his partner is a beautifully young 27 year old accountant. The other guy is 62 and his partner is 35. Neither guy is extra weathy or anything like that. In fact the guy with the young accountatnt is living off his pension. They're just mature, stable, reliable kinds of guys which is what intelligent young women here want.
The culture in the Philippines promotes that kind of success whereas it is opposed in other places.
I assume the guys you mentioned live in the Philippines and not New Zealand. Is that correct?

I realize this sort of relationship is more prevalent in the Philippines.

I will be truly impressed if they are in New Zealand.
 
Who wants to be normal?
Normal is too often used as a synonym for average....and these days average is off the charts below acceptable imho.
My preferred word is peculiar. Yeah. Ill take that one!

My sisterwife is 22 years younger then her husband and 23 years younger than I am.

This bothers no one ....in our family.

If it bothers others....it's kind of their problem.

Her family seem to like who she is, how well behaved and smart her children are....and even though she is technically a step grandma......she is more like a fun aunt.

Her children from this union were born an aunt and uncle. ...and are very loved by their big brothers and big sisters.

I have a friend who told me that the way our children are tells her all she needs to know about the relationship between the three of us parents. They are happy, loving, outgoing, and obviously are loved by all of us.
Another friend was won over by our oldest daughter. She thinks the world of our girl....and all of us by extension. She is a very kind and tenderhearted woman.
When people think we are great....because they admire ....our children.
I guess they are kinda judging by fruit.....

It was the way we value our children that my sisterwife first commented on. They are our most valued....blessings.

In God's kingdom each soul has great value.
In Babylon souls are at the bottom if the commodity list. Which brings me full circle back to why I don't want to be normal ....in the times I am living in.
A 22 year age difference (woman in 30s and man in 50s) is significant, but certainly far from extreme. I would certainly never discourage it.

Furthermore, I know that you are a wonderful person @Joleneakamama. I also believe your husband and sister wife to be people of excellence. I'm certain that your home and family will be blessed and happy. I rejoice with you all.

I would however urge serious caution to a 70 year old considering a 20 year old, and to a 20 year old considering a 70 year old.

I'd also urge caution between a Reformed Baptist and a Presbyterian marriage. They need to decide what to do about infant Baptism before the kids arrive.
 
A 22 year age difference (woman in 30s and man in 50s) is significant, but certainly far from extreme. I would certainly never discourage it.

Furthermore, I know that you are a wonderful person @Joleneakamama. I also believe your husband and sister wife to be people of excellence. I'm certain that your home and family will be blessed and happy. I rejoice with you all.

I would however urge serious caution to a 70 year old considering a 20 year old, and to a 20 year old considering a 70 year old.

I'd also urge caution between a Reformed Baptist and a Presbyterian marriage. They need to decide what to do about infant Baptism before the kids arrive.
Why is infant baptism such a big deal? If one parent believes it is wrong, then they can encourage the child to be baptized again when they are an adult. If infant baptism is wrong, it will not send the one doing it to hell nor the one that was baptized "incorrectly". I am baffled by why this topic is so controversial...
 
I know it's kinda fun watching salted slugs melt, but isn't it easier to just toss them to the chickens?
No. Because the slugs ONLY come out at night...in our house....while the chickens are sleeping in their coop. If I toss the slug outside...alive...it may return.
 
I'd also urge caution between a Reformed Baptist and a Presbyterian marriage. They need to decide what to do about infant Baptism before the kids arrive.
Just because it illustrates the fractured nature of denominations....

I know someone who's father was raised Pentacostal as an only child, and who's mother was raised Mennonite in a family of about 8 or 9. The couple was part of a independent fundementalist baptist churchm I heard the pentecostal grandma is very upset that the devil succeeded in getting her son and his family to believe in the Bible.


Why is infant baptism such a big deal? If one parent believes it is wrong, then they can encourage the child to be baptized again when they are an adult. If infant baptism is wrong, it will not send the one doing it to hell nor the one that was baptized "incorrectly". I am baffled by why this topic is so controversial...
I was baptized at 9 years in the Mormon church. They teach age of accountability is 8 years old.

Biblical age of accountability is 20 years.

Jesus was approximately 30 when he was baptized by John and began his ministry.

How many mormons baptized at 8 will question their comprehension, or consider being baptized again as adults? I would guess not many, because it felt like denying the legitimacy of my former baptism when I was baptized again at about 26.

Children are not responsible for their own sins before 20 years. Why subject them to a ceremony allegedly washing away their sins?
 
Why is infant baptism such a big deal? If one parent believes it is wrong, then they can encourage the child to be baptized again when they are an adult. If infant baptism is wrong, it will not send the one doing it to hell nor the one that was baptized "incorrectly".
baptists are historically quite logophobic people
 
I assume the guys you mentioned live in the Philippines and not New Zealand. Is that correct?

I realize this sort of relationship is more prevalent in the Philippines.

I will be truly impressed if they are in New Zealand.
Yes, the Philippines.
 
Yes, a 70 year old marrying a 20 year old is highly unusual! It is extremely anomalous. It is rarely done...it isn't sinful...God's Law does not prohibit it.
...but...
Where exactly is this "law of nature" that feeble old men should marry nubile young women to be found?
Speak for yourself.

THIS man, who's been 'retired' from the corporate world for well over a decade and a half, just dug a ditch for an underground line, climbed a 70' tower (multiple times) for a repair, strung a barb wire fence for the goats, and did the usual morning goat milking and daily radio shows. While the new electronic shop/lab is still under construction.

And I daresay any 20 year-old that was mature enough to appreciate what my other wives know already would find out that some things improve with age and experience, and that many thirty year-old 'men' might never figure out.

Honestly, though, I've met very few that have the kind of intellect and maturity I prefer even in their 30s...
 
Biblical age of accountability is 20 years.

Children are not responsible for their own sins before 20 years. Why subject them to a ceremony allegedly washing away their sins?
Where is this stated in the Bible?

Are you basing it on the fact that everyone (apart from Joshua and Caleb) over the age of 20 perished in the wilderness?

That is an example of one situation where everyone over 20 was held accountable, but doesn't necessarily indicate that people under 20 are never held accountable.

Maybe there is something else I am missing.

The youths that scorned the prophet Elisha in 2nd Kings 2 were held accountable for their sin.

 
Why is infant baptism such a big deal? If one parent believes it is wrong, then they can encourage the child to be baptized again when they are an adult. If infant baptism is wrong, it will not send the one doing it to hell nor the one that was baptized "incorrectly". I am baffled by why this topic is so controversial...
Because it gives too many a false sense of security, eternal security.
 
Where is this stated in the Bible?

Are you basing it on the fact that everyone (apart from Joshua and Caleb) over the age of 20 perished in the wilderness?

That is an example of one situation where everyone over 20 was held accountable, but doesn't necessarily indicate that people under 20 are never held accountable.

Maybe there is something else I am missing.

The youths that scorned the prophet Elisha in 2nd Kings 2 were held accountable for their sin.

In the book of numbers, only the men were counted... The cutoff was the age of 20.
 
If 20 is the "age of accountability" for men, what is the age of accountability for women? Men are allowed to marry before the age of 20, so they will have responsibility for the actions of their wives and children.

It doesn't make sense to me that a man can be held accountable yet not be of an age of accountability. Can someone please explain?
 
OK so another one is Abraham who was 140 when he married Keturah and another one is Issac who was 40 years old, and Rebekah didn't give birth until he turned 60, so by my math (20 years), she was likely half his age, especially since she is called a young woman or a girl or a damsel, when Abraham's servant met her. The interesting thing about Isaac and Rebekah, is that God arranged that marriage, so if a woman says that she will never marry a man who is twice her age, she very well might be saying "No" to God. Of course, when a woman refuses to marry a polygamist, the same thing can be said.
 
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